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“The crisis in Turkey has been a long time coming,” Kristin Fabbe says about the current political situation in Turkey.

Fabbe, an assistant professor at Harvard Business School, speaks with Marc Lynch on this week’s POMEPS podcast about the “very scary” climate in Turkey.

“There was this key moment between the first election in 2015 and the second, and what happened in between those two elections was very scary for Turkish politics. You see this bombings in Ankara and then members of the AKP get up and say, ‘This happened because there was no government. This did not happen on our watch.’ They use the fact they lost control of the parliament… to basically say, ‘You’re better off under our thumb.'”

Their conversation looks at how President Erdogan is leading his party in the midst of terrorism and the refugee crisis, their economic situation, and Turkey’s relationship with the European Union.

“Turkish democracy does better when Turkey is engaged with Europe. When Turkey is disengaged, Turkish democracy does worse. I think there’s really something to that argument,” Fabbe said. “The question is… is this the kind of engagement you want Turkey to have with Europe over the refugee and migration issue?”

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Read more from Fabbe:

“Review Essay on ‘The Politics of Nation-Building: Making of Co-Nationals, Refugees, and Minorities’ by Harris Mylonas.”Nationalities Papers. (March 2016.)

 “Turkey’s Secularization in Reverse?”Project on Middle East Political Science Studies 14 (June 2015): 17–19.

“Doing More with Less: the Justice and Development Party (AKP), Turkish Elections, and the Uncertain Future of Turkish Politics.”Nationalities Papers 39, no. 5 (September 2011): 657–666.

“After the Arab Spring: Are Secular Parties the Answer?”Journal of Democracy 26, no. 4 (October 2015): 125–139.

“Historical Legacies, Modern Conflicts: State Consolidation and Religious Pluralism in Greece and Turkey.”Southeast European and Black Sea Studies 13, no. 3 (2013): 435–453.

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